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Russell W. Shurts's avatar

Thank God for Thomas Jefferson and all the Founding Fathers for saving us from this nonsense.

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John Lewis's avatar

Thank you, I only get to go to Harvard or Yale indirectly for the path is wide that leadeth to damnation, and the gate is narrow and the path small and few find it. (citation to admissions rates)

It also seems cheap to ask if there could be affirmative action for the Amish, but the visible from my house Amish practice is "That which the most in their Churches maintain as truth in profession only, we must bring into familiar and constant practise.” As to what Marx might say of any of this it is irrelevant to the Amish. The Amish understand it as "For truly I tell you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible for you." (Matthew 17:20-21). Marx's tombstone reads: ""Philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point, however, is to change it". The "copyright" differs but the question of the struggle between having enough information to act and being quasi paralyzed by "data" remains. That is "philosophy" will always spiral to the point of simply interpreting the world, while faith acts upon it.

That is only some splinter groups hold to the old faith, and it is largely because they didn't Intellectualize it, They Rednecked it. They may have only needed a single word: "Love" (For I have hidden thy word in my heart that I might not sin against God) That is the Puritans go west in an "anti-technological" way whereas Boston has more theology, philosophy and science than the mind could ever bear to grasp. Some puritans heard Jonathan Edwards and gradually stumbled into Appalachia and decided to prove "faith" by snake handling, and drinking poison(moonshine).

Jefferson had the guilt of not serving others since his leisure or contemplation was based off slavery, and arguably invented trickle-down economics as a result or the idea that his copyright as stored in his University would trickle down and advance the progress of the sciences and the useful arts. As did Madison with respect to the Constitution. Both were correct to an extent.

The Puritan experiment grounded in "books" never failed, the founding libraries at Yale and Harvard grew and grew with commerce. As the book collection expanded new derivatives of Puritanism were born. Tracking the derivatives of Puritanism is an impossible task.

"The problem, of course, is that Christian love asks of man that which is impossible. History and the human condition demonstrate, including the history of the American Puritans, that Jesus’s core ethical teaching is not sustainable psychologically, morally, politically, or economically because it runs counter to human nature and thus to the morality necessary to sustain both human life and human morality."

The belief in History requires faith, reaching adulthood requires the love of parents, getting into this discussion may require access to books. Christian Love however doesn't ask of man to track the derivatives of Puritanism thru Harvard or Yale, that particular quest in some sense is about Control. How would I know that Christian love asks of man that which is impossible without first acting on faith that a particular view is Christian or love based in the first place?

That is the least "faith based" belief about the Puritans is that they correspond/rhyme with the Amish, who are known for building barns, furniture and making cheese. These might not correspond to your framing of the Puritans, but they are close enough in this world. You could claim that they don't have the morality necessary to sustain human life and human morality because they are pacifists but killing them would be extremely dishonorable (much, much, more so than plagerism which may or may not be the highest form of Honor for the Techno-puritans). Also I suspect they would fight back "collectively", regardless of what "theology" says.

I hold it as a somewhat self-evident truth that Rednecks are probably better off defending the low-tech puritans they can understand than they are the high-tech puritans they can't. In general when someone from Harvard or Yale gets a great idea for a "war" cultural or otherwise involving Rednecks, it usually goes bad for the Rednecks(examples available upon request).

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